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		By: Lyric Art — The Quilt Show with Alex Anderson and Ricky Tims (and me!)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] the Magnolia Plantation. You can read a little bit of my thoughts and feelings about the plantation here.  I was also able to visit the Angel Oak, the most massively beautiful tree I&#8217;ve ever been [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the Magnolia Plantation. You can read a little bit of my thoughts and feelings about the plantation here.  I was also able to visit the Angel Oak, the most massively beautiful tree I&#8217;ve ever been [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Amy @ Amy's Free Motion Quilting Adventures		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy @ Amy's Free Motion Quilting Adventures]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow Lyric, I came to your site today to get a little quilty inspiration and some encouragement in being creative and you did that and a box of chocolates for this homeschooling mama! We&#039;re doing early American history right now too.

Just so you know, you&#039;ve been an inspiration to me ever since I read about you sewing standing up so you could be creative in the midst of raising your kids. Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Lyric, I came to your site today to get a little quilty inspiration and some encouragement in being creative and you did that and a box of chocolates for this homeschooling mama! We&#8217;re doing early American history right now too.</p>
<p>Just so you know, you&#8217;ve been an inspiration to me ever since I read about you sewing standing up so you could be creative in the midst of raising your kids. Thanks!</p>
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		By: lyric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 01:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patty - I appreciate your comments and insights. I do feel the Magnolia Plantation did a FAR, FAR better job than any other white southern historical site I&#039;ve visited at acknowledging the contribution of the slaves. I truly appreciate their efforts - it&#039;s a really important part of our history that needs to be preserved.

I still, however, cannot feel that it is sugar coated and yes, I do understand that we can&#039;t always judge the past by today&#039;s cultural morals. We glamorize the life of the plantation owners and their &quot;accomplishments.&quot; And yes - emancipation was little better than slavery for many if not most blacks in America. The South did go from being rich to poor - although that is a misnomer. Only some of the white slave owners were rich to begin with. The &quot;south&quot; consisted of of mostly enslaved African Americans and many poor whites as well. I wouldn&#039;t call that rich. That would be like saying our national economy right now is doing fabulously well - because wall street bankers are still pulling in their millions.

I&#039;ve read several books since the trip - I love history - especially first person narratives. I love to try and get as close to original sources as possible. The slave narratives I read were WPA oral history projects transcribed in the 1930&#039;s. Most of the surviving former slaves were in their 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s and they had been quite young when emancipated - usually under ten.  The forward of the book pointed out several facts. 1 - The interviews were completed during the great depression when the sharecroppers interviewed were living under near starvation conditions so yes, looking back to a time when they were mostly fed and clothed looked better. 2 - The former slaves were still uneducated, and few had ever travelled to see what life was like outside of their immediate environment. It was their &quot;kind&quot; masters who made sure they were uneducated and unequipped for any life other than slavery. 3 - The interviewers were white. During slave times telling anyone that your master was unkind was grounds for whipping, or being sold away from your family. I can&#039;t imagine it was much better around whites after the war. Especially considering that the 1920&#039;s is when the KKK really ramped up their overtly violent activities. Just looking the wrong way at a white could get you lynched. In the interviews the former slaves would say their master was good - and in the same interview mention being whipped. Remember, they were young children at the time. Their &quot;good&quot; masters sanctioned the whipping of children.

I&#039;ve also just read Frederick Douglass&#039; first memoir. The conditions it recounts were horrifying. Children under ten mostly naked with no blankets in the winter. Feeding the children mush out of troughs with no utensils and competing with the dogs. Women purchased as breeding stock - often raped by the master. He does an interesting thing and points out many specific ways in which the institution of slavery degrades the white owners as well.

So - I am humbled and truly amazed at those who survived this and many times kept their faith and their humanity intact. You mentioned that the South is still mostly poor today and part of that is the destruction of an economy based on the enslavement of others. We don&#039;t look at Hitler&#039;s capture and enslavement of the Jews and say that we have to understand it through the lens of today&#039;s wisdom, education, and understanding of our day. We call it out for what it was. Pure evil. I see the two cultures as very much alike.

Look at it another way - African Americans STILL have lower education levels and income levels than whites do. Why? 

We still have work to do and until we question and learn about and understand our WHOLE history it&#039;s going to be difficult to grow and learn from it.

Thanks again Patty for your wonderful comments!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty &#8211; I appreciate your comments and insights. I do feel the Magnolia Plantation did a FAR, FAR better job than any other white southern historical site I&#8217;ve visited at acknowledging the contribution of the slaves. I truly appreciate their efforts &#8211; it&#8217;s a really important part of our history that needs to be preserved.</p>
<p>I still, however, cannot feel that it is sugar coated and yes, I do understand that we can&#8217;t always judge the past by today&#8217;s cultural morals. We glamorize the life of the plantation owners and their &#8220;accomplishments.&#8221; And yes &#8211; emancipation was little better than slavery for many if not most blacks in America. The South did go from being rich to poor &#8211; although that is a misnomer. Only some of the white slave owners were rich to begin with. The &#8220;south&#8221; consisted of of mostly enslaved African Americans and many poor whites as well. I wouldn&#8217;t call that rich. That would be like saying our national economy right now is doing fabulously well &#8211; because wall street bankers are still pulling in their millions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read several books since the trip &#8211; I love history &#8211; especially first person narratives. I love to try and get as close to original sources as possible. The slave narratives I read were WPA oral history projects transcribed in the 1930&#8217;s. Most of the surviving former slaves were in their 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s and they had been quite young when emancipated &#8211; usually under ten.  The forward of the book pointed out several facts. 1 &#8211; The interviews were completed during the great depression when the sharecroppers interviewed were living under near starvation conditions so yes, looking back to a time when they were mostly fed and clothed looked better. 2 &#8211; The former slaves were still uneducated, and few had ever travelled to see what life was like outside of their immediate environment. It was their &#8220;kind&#8221; masters who made sure they were uneducated and unequipped for any life other than slavery. 3 &#8211; The interviewers were white. During slave times telling anyone that your master was unkind was grounds for whipping, or being sold away from your family. I can&#8217;t imagine it was much better around whites after the war. Especially considering that the 1920&#8217;s is when the KKK really ramped up their overtly violent activities. Just looking the wrong way at a white could get you lynched. In the interviews the former slaves would say their master was good &#8211; and in the same interview mention being whipped. Remember, they were young children at the time. Their &#8220;good&#8221; masters sanctioned the whipping of children.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also just read Frederick Douglass&#8217; first memoir. The conditions it recounts were horrifying. Children under ten mostly naked with no blankets in the winter. Feeding the children mush out of troughs with no utensils and competing with the dogs. Women purchased as breeding stock &#8211; often raped by the master. He does an interesting thing and points out many specific ways in which the institution of slavery degrades the white owners as well.</p>
<p>So &#8211; I am humbled and truly amazed at those who survived this and many times kept their faith and their humanity intact. You mentioned that the South is still mostly poor today and part of that is the destruction of an economy based on the enslavement of others. We don&#8217;t look at Hitler&#8217;s capture and enslavement of the Jews and say that we have to understand it through the lens of today&#8217;s wisdom, education, and understanding of our day. We call it out for what it was. Pure evil. I see the two cultures as very much alike.</p>
<p>Look at it another way &#8211; African Americans STILL have lower education levels and income levels than whites do. Why? </p>
<p>We still have work to do and until we question and learn about and understand our WHOLE history it&#8217;s going to be difficult to grow and learn from it.</p>
<p>Thanks again Patty for your wonderful comments!</p>
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		By: Patty Z		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 19:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lyric, I enjoyed reading your blog, especially since Dennis &#038; I just got back from there weekend before last.  Your remarks about slavery were interesting, as we felt this plantation was so up front about giving credit to the slaves for all the work done, and having a tour of their homes.  One of the slave homes still on the site belongs to one of the original workers, who just retired last year.  He raised all 7 of his children in the little home, and shared his story as to what happened when emanicipation came. For him, he felt he was lucky to be able to continue on and work at the plantation after the Civil War.  Most of the slaves were forced to leave, as the family could not afford to pay all the 100&#039;s of workers that it was currently &quot;employing.&quot;  He said many were happy to be free and headed North, but for most, he said it was bittersweet.  This was all they had known, and their friends and families were all there at the plantation.  Although they were not free prior to this, he said most felt like they had been treated well, considering the alternative.  Many who left, ended up in abject poverty, not having the skills or education to do much more than work the rice fields which almost immediately went out of business.  It is an interesting thing, to look back with the wisdom, education, and understanding of the year 2013 and try to make sense of a world from which we are so far removed.  Slavery has existed since the beginning of time, not always race related, and is responsible for the building of more than one empire.  Nothing can justify it in my mind, but what I find amazing is how resiliant the human spirit is.  How, when you read the oral histories of so many slaves, they did not live day in and day out with their head hung down in misery.  So many were able to rise above their sordid circumstances to live a life of gratitude for the blessing life did offer them.  The music and histories of that time speak to hope and a strong belief in God.  I find it incredible.  Historically, although I don&#039;t think this family was truly reduced to poverty(! that was quite the exaggeration!), the South in general, went from being the richest part of the land to be the poorest part of the land almost overnight.  For the most part, that continues even today.  As a region, they have the lowest rates of income, education, and upward mobility when you look at the nation as a whole.  Anyway, I&#039;m going on too long, (sorry!) but Dennis and I had lots of good coversations as we spent the day there walking the grounds, taking the swamp tour (did you see all the alligators!! - unbelievable the workers dealt with that too in addition to the threat of malaria!), and took the house tour.  The guide we had in the main home paid homage to the slaves, and the work they did as well.  We too, loved the quilts - the big one we were told took over 20 years to complete - sheesh, now that is dedication! 
I&#039;m glad you were able to go and do the quilt show, and thank you for your thought provoking remarks.  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyric, I enjoyed reading your blog, especially since Dennis &amp; I just got back from there weekend before last.  Your remarks about slavery were interesting, as we felt this plantation was so up front about giving credit to the slaves for all the work done, and having a tour of their homes.  One of the slave homes still on the site belongs to one of the original workers, who just retired last year.  He raised all 7 of his children in the little home, and shared his story as to what happened when emanicipation came. For him, he felt he was lucky to be able to continue on and work at the plantation after the Civil War.  Most of the slaves were forced to leave, as the family could not afford to pay all the 100&#8217;s of workers that it was currently &#8220;employing.&#8221;  He said many were happy to be free and headed North, but for most, he said it was bittersweet.  This was all they had known, and their friends and families were all there at the plantation.  Although they were not free prior to this, he said most felt like they had been treated well, considering the alternative.  Many who left, ended up in abject poverty, not having the skills or education to do much more than work the rice fields which almost immediately went out of business.  It is an interesting thing, to look back with the wisdom, education, and understanding of the year 2013 and try to make sense of a world from which we are so far removed.  Slavery has existed since the beginning of time, not always race related, and is responsible for the building of more than one empire.  Nothing can justify it in my mind, but what I find amazing is how resiliant the human spirit is.  How, when you read the oral histories of so many slaves, they did not live day in and day out with their head hung down in misery.  So many were able to rise above their sordid circumstances to live a life of gratitude for the blessing life did offer them.  The music and histories of that time speak to hope and a strong belief in God.  I find it incredible.  Historically, although I don&#8217;t think this family was truly reduced to poverty(! that was quite the exaggeration!), the South in general, went from being the richest part of the land to be the poorest part of the land almost overnight.  For the most part, that continues even today.  As a region, they have the lowest rates of income, education, and upward mobility when you look at the nation as a whole.  Anyway, I&#8217;m going on too long, (sorry!) but Dennis and I had lots of good coversations as we spent the day there walking the grounds, taking the swamp tour (did you see all the alligators!! &#8211; unbelievable the workers dealt with that too in addition to the threat of malaria!), and took the house tour.  The guide we had in the main home paid homage to the slaves, and the work they did as well.  We too, loved the quilts &#8211; the big one we were told took over 20 years to complete &#8211; sheesh, now that is dedication!<br />
I&#8217;m glad you were able to go and do the quilt show, and thank you for your thought provoking remarks.  🙂</p>
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